Paul seems to missunderstand my view on scripture. He states: Crucial to Dan’s argument is the claim that “common man” are all, each and every, libertarians. If Dan claims that some “common men” are not indeterminist, but determinist, then he defeats one of his premises, or makes the Bible speak in contradictions. To spell this point out, recall that Dan says, “The Bible is written by and to the common man, it means what they mean, since they mean certain words libertarianly, then the Bible so means those words.” Yet if we allow some (even one?) of the “common men” to whom the Bible was written to be determinists, then it must mean what they mean by the words that are the topic of our discussion. However, since there are indeterminist “common men”, then the Bible must also mean what they mean by the words we are discussing! Therefore, Dan must assume that each and every “common man” is a libertarian, which I find highly implausible. ( link ) It was not said what was said I said. The b...
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Would you be of help please - maybe directing me to some posts re: dealing with the common argument from beloved C brethren about fallen man inability to choose, for to choose there should be intristic good in him,etc, you know how it goes
I think i've exausted all the arguments i had.
You have touched the subject many times and recently in a debate with TJ, but in case there are other things you would recommend to read.
Thank you,
Odeliya.
Here's a few links off the top of my head:
http://www.arminianchronicles.com/2007/12/recap-of-debate-on-forced-grace.html
http://www.arminianchronicles.com/2008/05/edwards-on-impeccability-and-hardening.html
http://www.arminianchronicles.com/2008/10/intro-to-whitby-on-grace-section-3.html
If you have something more specific in mind, I would be happy to address it.
God be with you,
Dan
Seems like that is precisely what i am asking about. If i have questions further on while reading i will surely take advantage of your kind offer and will ask. I need to read a bit more on a few topics..
on a side note, I am getting dissapointed with heated forum debates and did cut down on those. Maybe its not the best way to learn after all..
I am not complaining about certain roughness people show,I gladly forgive that, but rather lack of substance.
Blessings,
Odeliya.