James White on Romans 8:28-30
In James White’s book, The
Potter’s Freedom1, he argues for unconditional election
based on Romans 8:28-30. Here's the
passage:
Romans 8:28-30: And we know that
all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the
called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He
also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might
be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He
predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and
whom He justified, these He also glorified.
One of the key questions is the
meaning of the word foreknow (proginosko).
James White says that foreknowledge means “chooses to enter into a relationship with”. He supports this view by arguing that to
determine the meaning of the Greek term proginosko, we should primarily use
passages where God is the subject and the object is personal (such as Romans
11:2, 1 Peter 1:20). He argues “Obviously, passages that have humans as the
subject would differ, substantially, in their meaning, for God’s knowledge is
vastly different than man’s” and “God
foreknows people, not things”.
Further, he argues that in Jeremiah 1:5, Exodus 33:17, Amos 3:2 (in
which God is the subject and the object is personal), yada means “consecrated”,
“appointed” or “choose”. (PF 197-201)
Fundamentally, James White is
telling us to exclude from our analysis the information which does not support
his view. Yes, the two cases of
prognosko where God is the subject probably mean choose (Romans 11:2, 1 Peter
1:20). However, the word gnosko (without
the prefix pro) is often used of God’s knowing things rather than His choosing
things (Matthew 12:15, 16:3, Mark 8:17, 15:10, Luke 8:46, John 4:1, John 5:6,
John 6:15, 16:19, 1 John 3:20). So while
we can agree with Dr. White that God’s knowledge is different than ours; gnosko
is still a fine word to express God’s knowledge and God being the Knower does
not require us to think of gnosko as choice rather than knowledge. Also,
when gnosko has God as its subject and people as its object, gnosko may mean
know rather than choose, as it does in Luke 16:15 and John 1:48, 2:24-25,
5:42. So having God as the subject and
us as the object does not support Dr. White’s claim that gnosko means choose
rather than know.
In case anyone should say the
“fore” is essential, so we should not look at usage of know, please recall that
Dr. White himself argues based on know without the “fore” in in the OT cases of
Jeremiah 1:5, Exodus 33:17 and Amos 3:2.
Further, prognosko can mean foreknow rather than choose as it does in
Acts 26:5, 2 Peter 3:17, and Wisdom 6:13, 8:8, 18:6, so we have evidence that the
prefix pro does not restrict the gnosko from pro-gnosko from its standard
meaning: know.
Perhaps Dr. White sees the combination
of 1) God as the subject, 2) people as the object, and 3) the prefix pro, when
mixed together, as providing the magic formula needed to show proginosko means
fore-choose - given none of the individual elements establish his point. But the more standard process is to lay out
all the different usages of a word to determine the semantic range, and then
use the context to select the best alternative.
The text itself presents an obstacle to understanding prognosko as fore-choose
or fore-ordain: the word “also”. A
reading of “for whom He predestined, He also
predestined” contains an unnecessary duplication, whereas the apostle presents
successive steps or links in a chain in our salvation: foreknew ->
predestined -> called -> justified -> glorified. Each builds on the last to make progress to
the goal.
So the better translation into
English is foreknowledge and that’s what most translations go with. Please note the English word foreknowledge
does not mean “chooses to enter into a relationship with”, rather it means to
know beforehand. (link)
We come to the heart of James
White’s mistake on this passage. “It is the burden of the Arminian to break
this “golden chain of redemption,” prove to us that God’s foreknowing is a mere
passive gathering of infallible knowledge of the future actions of free
creatures, and establish that this passage is not telling us that all of
salvation, from initiation to accomplishment, is the work of God for His own
glory.” (PF 200)
We have observed some serious
problems with Dr. White’s analysis, but let’s assume for the sake of argument
James White is right that prognosko means “choose to enter into a relationship with”. Why assume such a choice is unconditional? Most
choices that we make are conditional and the ones that are unconditional are
random. Calvinists deny God’s choice
was random but they also deny His choice was conditional. What’s left?
Even if there is such a thing as a non-random, unconditional choice, how
do we know Paul has that in mind and not something more like our everyday
choices? And even if the passage does
mean an unconditional choice, what if the rising number of scholars who think
the passage speaks of corporate election rather than individual election are
correct? Dr. White has a considerable
way further to go in proving Calvinism from this text so he shifts the burden
of proof.
The passage either proves
Calvinism, proves Traditionalism or proves neither. Even if we cannot prove the passage teaches Traditionalism,
that does not mean Calvinism has been established. So Dr. White’s laying the burden of proof on Traditionalists
is unjustified.
What if Paul has a different
topic in mind and does not bring this up to address if election is conditional
or unconditional? I think he does and would argue that Paul does not decide the
issue of Calvinism/Traditionalism in this passage. Paul is explaining why those who loved God
and were called according to His purpose can know all things work together for
their good. Paul lays out stages in the process of
salvation, so we can know how we got here and where we are headed and thus gain
confidence that God will work all things for our good. God loves us and has loved us since before we
were born. He has a plan for us and will
take care of us and bring us into His kingdom.
That is an encouraging thought, for the Calvinist as well as the Traditionalist.
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1James White. The Potter's Freedom: A Defense of the
Reformation and the Rebuttal of Norman Geisler's Chosen But Free. (2nd edition) Calvary Chapel
Press. 2007.
Comments
Paul is just saying: Do not fear, if God was faithful for our fathers, so He will be faithful to us too.
So, even the exegesis of White says nothing to your vision.
I wanted to ask if you've blogged before about the use of the word 'called' in that same passage?
Thanks,
David
God be with you,
Dan
White pushes for not just a loving relationship, but the idea of "selection". That's his key mistake. But if we ask the question of "who do you love" the answer is God in Christ has a special loving relationship with believers.
God be with you,
Dan
I don't recall blogging on that specific topic, but one interesting possibility would be called in the sense of called God's children or "named". I recommend Dr. Klein's article:
http://www.traditionalbaptistchronicles.com/2009/01/friday-files-kleins-article-about-pauls.html
On the other hand, it may be called in the sense of the call of the Gospel and while all justified were called, that does not mean every individual ever called ends up justified.
God be with you,
Dan
You cannot choose out of a 100 perfectly equal balls. They are all identical: choice is not possible. You can randomly pick, but that is not choice.
To think that Christ (the Elect) was only "randomly picked" is just foolish.
In Scripture the words for choose "bachar" in the OT and "eklegomai" in the NT always indicate choosing based on certain qualities. So much so, that "choice-men", "choice-silver" etc. means the best of the best. That is fundamentally the meaning.
Now, that God foreknows such qualities is entirely possible....
Thanks, I agree. How a choice could be both non-random and unconditional is beyond me (and probably beyond human experience). So to say this is what the Apostle Paul had in mind when he speaks of election is reading into scripture.
You wouldn't happen to be the same "Holdon" that used to post at Christianity.com or crosswalk.com?
God be with you,
Dan
God be with you,
Dan
Great post!
Yep, the business of foreknowledge just seems to distract from the important question of if election is conditional or not.
God be with you,
Dan