Discussion of Texts used to support Unconditional Election
Last night I discussed unconditional election
with a few friendly Calvinists. For the
most part, they picked the texts we discussed in their making a case for unconditional
election (i.e. we didn’t discuss 1 Timothy 2:4-6 or the like).
While rehashing the whole discussion isn’t
possible I wanted to at least summarize the major points of disagreement on
each text we discussed at length.
Matthew 11:20-30
20 Then He
began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done,
because they did not repent:21 “Woe to
you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done
in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in
sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I say
to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment
than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, who are
exalted to heaven, will be brought
down to Hades; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in
Sodom, it would have remained until this day. 24 But I say
to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of
judgment than for you.” 25 At that
time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and
earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and
prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so,
Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All
things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except
the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to
whom the Son wills to reveal Him. 28 Come to
Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you
rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My
yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
- On verses 21-23, I argued that given Christ’s work, the people of Tyre and Sidon really could have repented, so the grace given was sufficient to enable repentance. They disagreed arguing that Christ was exaggerating in verses 21 to 23.
- On verse 25, the Calvinists argued the Father’s hiding the Gospel explained why the Jews had been rejecting Christ (and John the Baptist) in the past. I disagreed, arguing that the hiding of the Gospel was a punishment for their past rejections and God was removing the light He previously gave them. More generally, Christ was repurposing His ministry away from the Jewish leadership that was rejecting Him and towards those struggling under the law (verse 28).
- On verse 26, we disagreed that “or so it seemed good in Your sight” refers to a condition for God’s choice (i.e. God choosing to do something because He saw something good about what He was choosing).
- On verse 28, I argued laboring and being heavy laden (i.e. struggling under the law) is a preparatory step to receiving the Gospel and those who do will not have the Gospel hidden from them. The Calvinists disagreed.
Acts 13:48
46 Then
Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God
should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves
unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so the Lord has
commanded us:
‘I
have set you as a light to the Gentiles,
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’”
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’”
48 Now
when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the
Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
- On verse 48, I argued that the appointing was God arranging the hearts of the people right there on the spot. They disagreed arguing that the appointing is related to predestination from eternity past.
- I argued that if appoint refers to predestination, then all elect persons were saved right then and there and anyone who didn’t believe on the spot never would because they are not among the predestined. They disagreed arguing there is an implied “as many as had been appointed to eternal life [for that time] believed.
- I argued that verse 46 parallels verse 48, and that’s evidence that the appointing happened on the spot rather than in eternity past. They disagreed.
Romans 8:28-30
28 And we
know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who
are the called according to His purpose. 29 For
whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed
to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover
whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also
justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
- On verse 28, I argued that loving God is a condition for God’s promise that all things will work for your good. They disagreed, arguing that loving God is a condition of the people for who all things work out for good.
- On verse 29, they argued that foreknew means chose. I disagreed arguing it means foreknowledge and that foreknowledge is within the semantic range of the term.
- I argued that if foreknow means chose, then this passage and 1 Peter 1:2 have the redundancy of “whom He predestined, He predestined” or “chosen according to the choice of God”. They disagreed arguing that since in 1 Peter 1:2, proginōskō is in a noun form rather than a verb form, we shouldn’t draw a parallel between the two and Romans 8:29 is saying those whom God chose He predestined.
Romans 9 10 And not
only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our
father Isaac 11 (for the children not yet
being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according
to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), 12 it was
said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.”
- The Calvinists argued God’s election of Jacob was unconditional. I disagreed, arguing God chose Jacob because he was younger and didn’t have the natural birthright and to use Jacob/Esau as an object lesson that salvation is based on God’s grace rather than works or nationality.
- The Calvinist argued that grace must be unconditional. I argued that grace may be conditional, only it must be unmerited.
- I argued that faith does not merit salvation and even believers would end up in hell, were it not for God’s choice to have mercy on the believer. The Calvinists disagreed, saying faith merits salvation but it’s OK that it does, since God gives us faith.
Comments
I do not accept Unconditional Election as an explanation, as I strongly believe it to be unscriptural.
Your thoughts?
God be with you,
Dan
http://www.traditionalbaptistchronicles.com/2013/05/matthew-1121-23-why-were-people-of.html
God be with you,
Dan