Dan Chapa

Dan (Arminian) and Turretinfan (Calvinist) discuss 1 Tim 4:10, and briefly answer a question from the David Pallmann/Derick Murrell debate regarding foreknowledge and the atonement.   The main points of disconcurrance on 1 Tim 4:10 were the meaning of "savior" and "especially". Background  1 Timothy is Paul’s letter to his traveling companion, Timothy, who he sent to the Church he started in Ephesus to deal with some heretics, including Alexander and Hymenaeus.   He only reveals bits and pieces about the heresy, but it involved miss-use of the law, forbidding marriage, food restrictions, and exercise. 2 Timothy (Titus, 2 Peter and 1 John) deal with the same heresy, some early form of Gnosticism (think Dan Brown DaVinci code type stuff) Christ die for all verses Hebrews 2:9, 1 Timothy 2:4-6, John 12:32, 2 Corinthians 5:14-15 Directly addresses the extent of the atonement Similar to the “World” texts, but all is an open ended, distributive term, whereas world is a lar

Dan (Arminian) and Turretinfan (Calvinist) briefly review Dan's discussion with Leighton Flowers on total depravity, then dig in to 1 Timothy 2:4-6. The main points of discucurrance were talking "all men" to mean everyone or not, does Christ's being the Mediator and ransom guarantee effectual mediation and freedom or not, should we pray for everyone and is the reference to testification related to preaching the gospel to everyone? Explanation of the Passage 1 Timothy 2 1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom